Day 2, Bluff Utah to Meeker Colorado…


We drove more miles than we wanted, but it seems that you can’t get an RV site without planning ahead. We are more of the plan on the fly type of campers. Leaving I70 we turned north on hwy 13 and found an RV park that left us dry camp for a nominal fee…
Yesterday we spent the night next to the San Juan river, today, lunch next to the mighty Colorado river.
Safe and secure…

Psalm 63: 1-5


1. O God, You are my God, 
And I will seek You so earnestly,
My body and soul thirst after You,
In a land that is so dry and weary.

2. I have seen You in the sanctuary,
And beheld Your power and Your glory too.
3. Because Your love is better than life,
My lips will praise and glorify You.

4. I will praise You as long as I live,
I will lift up my hands unto Your name.
5. My soul satisfied as with rich food,
Praise to You, my singing lips, proclaim.

The complete Psalms in Meter, by Ryan Stewart.

Arizona SBC Disaster Relief…


Just last week we got a message from one our former Pastors (and favorite) Dean Stanley. His church, Golden Valley Baptist church, through their week of VBS had collected an offering for AZDR. We were just overwhelmed, so we made plans to go last Sunday to receive the check on behalf of our state director.
Pastor Dean and his wife, Rhonda, gave us a check for $1000.00 for Arizona Disaster Relief!!!… This could not have come at a better time, as two teams from AZDR will soon be traveling to Colorado for home cleanups from the 2020 fires.
In addition to the check, ( did I mention that is was $1000.00?), the VBS guys and gals collected a wheelbarrow full of much needed supplies…Praise the Lord for His goodness and grace. Praise Him for churches that would think of the pretty much unknown missionaries of Disaster Relief.

Day Six…


Laundry day. This is how we do our laundry, find one, choose a spot to park out of the way, and enjoy lunch while waiting for your clothes to get done…
Lots of logging going on in Idaho.
Turkey family…
We are standing next to our RV parking spot for the next two days. Ravenwood RV Resort, Athol Idaho, $54.00 per day for water and electric only. We wondered if this spot is like getting a table next to the kitchen in a restaurant???

Day Four…


For a brief thirty seconds we entered Washington state, and just like that, we were back in Idaho…
It took us a while to try to figure out what this yellow crop was. They were all over and very pretty. We really should have gotten a better photo. After some time we consulted with Norm’s Dad, Paul, he told us it was canola. Who knew?…
Beyond all expectations, Praise God, we snagged a spot in Tamarack RV park in Coeur d Alene Idaho. Nice park with friendly workers.

Day Three…


Payette river, a major tributary to the Snake river
We could hardly hear each other, the roar of the water was loud!!!
For some reason, we thought it would be a good idea to travel 2.1 miles uphill on this skinny trail to stay in a National Forest campground. Ignoring a sign that claimed up to two hours of delay for logging activities we pressed on only to come to a halt with two machines logging away. Norm spotted as we backed about .3 tenths to a place where we could turn around…
Driving further north near Riggins Idaho, we scored a free campsite on the Salmon river. Also known as “The river of no return.” The water temperature was 69 degrees. The sound of the river is like music from God…
Our new kitchen setup. Working well so far…

Day Two…


Most all of Highway 93 looks like this…
The town name says it all, Norm counted 7 casinos…
We think this is north of Buhl Idaho on highway 30
Trailbreak RV park in Glenns Ferry Idaho. Nice park, we snagged the last site available. Really hard to just stop and find a campground anymore. You have to plan ahead and we’re just not that good at planning ahead…

To all Veterans, Thanks for your service…


Military Service…

On some air bases the Air Force is on one side of the field and civilian aircraft use the other side of the field, with the control tower in the middle.
One day the tower received a call from an aircraft asking, “What time is it?”
The tower responded, “Who is calling?”
The aircraft replied, “What difference does it make?”
The tower replied, “It makes a lot of difference.
If it is an American Airlines flight, it is 3 o’clock.
If it is an Air Force plane, it is 1500 hours.
If it is a Navy aircraft, it is 6 bells.
If it is an Army aircraft, the big hand is on the 12 and the little hand is on the 3.
If it is a Marine Corps aircraft, it’s Thursday afternoon.”

Someone asked the question “what would you do if you found a scorpion in your tent?” to members of different branches of the military, and these are the responses he got.

Army said, “I’d step on it.”

The Marine said, “I would crush it with the heel of my boot.”

The Ranger said, “I’d smash its head, cut off its tail and eat it.”

Then Air Force said, “I would call room service, tell them to take it away, then ask why there is a tent in my hotel room.”

Campsites….


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We traveled from Kentucky, to Tennessee, to Arkansas in just a few hours. Almost always, unless we have a destination with a time restriction, we amble. I sometimes feel bad and do the speed limit, but mostly we like to amble. This is our first time in an Arkansas state park, and we liked it a lot. This is the kind of park we would have spent a few days in, if we would have had the time. Way off the main road, no cell service, no close neighbors and plenty of squirrel’s….

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This is the view of our site from the bath house, which, by the way was really nice…

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The bacon Pig. We could not have made this trip without our faithful piggy. The biggest problem with him is keeping him full…

Bardstown Kentucky…


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We decided, for some reason to stay in Bardstown Kentucky at “My old Kentucky home State Park.” It turned out to be fun and we are glad it did as we stayed much longer then we intended to. Our only credit card was compromised so we had to hang around for a few extra days and have two new ones sent to us. We used Kenny’s Cleaners for laundry twice, had lunch downtown, shopped Kroger’s, Boones meat market and Walmart, enjoyed two different sites within the park and four different museums. This little town had a lot going on…

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We do need to wake up!!!

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We found these museums to be great for such a small town. Lots of history on all wars, on woman historically, especially the Civil War….

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Our little oddball always attracts curious looks. This was our second site….

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This is not a good photo, but we spent three days at this spot with no one but a cat around…

We visit the Ark…


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The Ark is very impressive in person, this photo does not begin to put into perspective the size…

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This was taken from a little patio on the back side of the Ark…Looking up…

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This ramp leads to the only door. The door that the Lord closed the day of the Flood…Genesis 7:16 “And those that entered, male and female of all flesh, went in as God had commanded him. And the LORD shut him in.”

Creation Museum, part 2…


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Mount St. Helens is an event that evolutionist don’t like to talk about….

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I really don’t know what to say about this???…

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So we came out to eat lunch, and found this classic motor home (classic means old and smelly) next to us with it’s generator running non stop, and you guessed it, smelled of gas fumes, from being old. So, we skipped lunch to finish the museum. Well worth the trip, we were blessed. The next day we pulled out of the Ark Encounter parking lot and passing by the RV parking spots, and yes, there was the same classic smelly motorhome. And yes, the smelly generator was running full speed…

We visit the Creation Museum….


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We spent almost two full days at the Creation Museum and can highly recommend a visit. As a believer, it is way cool to see the Bible come to life, using science and common sense to see the lies in evolution. To see the evidence for a young earth. The best thing is they present the Gospel !!!

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I found this especially interesting, in light of our war in Iraq…

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Flight 93 Memorial…


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Circumstances beyond our control has found us in Pennsylvania. So, being ahead of schedule, we stopped by the new memorial. It was a very solemn experience….

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I found this to be one of most interesting displays, with the flight information and cockpit voice recording…

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This panel showed the amount of air traffic over the United States, around 4500 aircraft that had to be landed…

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Our last day at the Beach…


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If you can see the lower right side of this sign, there are some important marine life that one may encounter that were left off of this list…Like sharks and sting rays, which we encountered on our next to last day at the beach…

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We biked to the beach and saw this set of flags, which we had to look up. We knew the yellow flag means to use caution for rip tides, but the purple flag? That means dangerous marine life, like the ones left off the placard from above…Yikes…We did not get any photos, but spotted one large sting ray in very shallow water and several sharks, not very far from shore…

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This is early in the morning. We set the alarm, made coffee and went to the beach to enjoy it. We have never had our morning coffee like this before! We could not stop Praising God for all that He has given us. It was with great regret that we left the Florida panhandle, a place that we never intended to ever visit, after living here forty years ago, turned out to be so great for us…

Camping by the ocean…


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We stayed two days at Grayton Beach state park, near Santa Rosa island. Nice campsite, I reserved it over the phone and the nice lady told me that there was an issue about backing into it. Seems some had difficulty, not us..

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This path led straight to the facilities. Nice showers and they were free….

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A very short bike ride from our spot to here. Even if the weather is iffy, we are at the beach…

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Who knew that pelicans flew in formation? Hundreds passed over at different times, this was the best shot I could get, lying on my back, on the beach, at the ocean…

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We caught this freeloader trying to get out of Florida….He was hanging on the door jam of the truck….

Rocky Bayou State Park, Niceville Fl….


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This is a nice park. A bit of a drive to the beach, but it made up for it in quiet ambiance. The bay can be seen through the trees, included at no charge, alligator warning signs…

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We think the Destin, Santa Rosa area has the best beaches, at least for us…

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Our first of a couple of nights of seafood feasting. A place called Nick’s, east of Rocky Bayou, great seafood and it felt like an authentic panhandle joint…Yes that is a chicken roosting outside of the entrance to Nick’s…

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This was our view from the second big feast, the Original Crab Shack in Fort Walton Beach. More great food, all seafood. We lived in this area 40 years ago and remember it as such a small town, local feel. Now the traffic rivals any big city…

Alabama….


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We were in front but had to take off as the waves were crashing over the bow…

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We never thought that we would drive onto a ferry boat ever. It was way cool. This huge ship passed right in front of us…

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We crossed Mobile Bay on a ferry boat! This is the view from the drivers seat as our truck and trailer were parked in the center and everyone was directed around us. We were first on and last off, which was okay with us.

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Disaster Relief, Baton Rouge La…


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We left RMNP for Granby Colorado for supplies and to check email (no service whatsoever in RMNP). A AZDR team had already been dispatched to mud-out homes in Baton Rouge. I called and we immediately set out. Three days and 1340 miles later here we parked for the next 19 days…

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A few weeks later and this is what our little garden spot looked like….

Rocky Mountain National Park…Colorado…


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Passing 10,000 feet on our way to over 12,000 in elevation. The temperature dropped to the middle thirties. A few days later, it snowed at the peak, in August…

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One of the hikes we did, they all kicked our butts…

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Passing under our table at camp…

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This guy held us up for ten minutes standing by the trail we wanted to hike…

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Outside our door…

We go Racing….Colorado Springs, Colorado…


Well, not us but our friend Bruce from Denver Colorado. Bruce is a legend in Colorado racing circles and a member of the Colorado Motorsports Hall of Fame. Any form of two wheels you can think of, Bruce has raced it, and some four wheeled vehicles also. He is a great Christian Brother. Bruce can also fix and or repair anything with a motor, build houses, do detail work and make it all look easy.  We had so much fun, vintage racing is so cool. Like senior rodeo, guys that can hardly move, limp, groan, look old, or otherwise look bad physically. They are transformed when the bikes come off the starting gate. They joke around, care for each other, fix each other’s machine, congratulate each other. We followed Bruce to his home, watched the sun set over the Rocky Mountains, had a very quiet night and good fellowship over morning coffee…

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Bruce on his vintage Yamaha in action…

Black Mesa State Park, Oklahoma…


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This is a nice park that we have stayed at before. It has showers and electric, good for a State park…

 

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Something that slipped by me last time was this nifty playground complete with a chin up bar…This park is off the main drive but worth it. The last time we stayed we hiked the tallest point in Oklahoma, cool hike with rattlesnakes included at no extra cost…Good times…

RV Parks…


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I have probably ranted about this in some past post that I have long since forgotten. RV parks, I have a love/hate relationship with. Hate is such a strong word, maybe anger/frustration/sadness would work better. We have been involved in RV’s in one way or another, thanks to Norm’s parents since the late/early eighties (?). Parks have sure changed since. The above photo is of our current neighbor, less his diesel work truck. Bear in mind we did not select this spot, but the park is almost predominantly lodged with what I call, squatters. Most rv’s have 1 to 2 motorcycles, 2 or more cars/work trucks and all windows are covered with some sort of shade material. It is like living in a cave, I know. Some have dogs or cats, usually more than two. A very small part of the park has any real, travelling RVers. I see them every night and watch them go in the morning, usually only one or two units. Of course, we are a part of the squatters lifestyle right now. Being up front about this rant. Wi-fi is my next gripe. When a park tells you they have wi-fi, do not get too excited. I have found that really means, someone has wi-fi, just not you. I am always, 1. too far from the source, 2. I am always on at the wrong time, i.e. too many others are using it. Bathrooms and showers. Hit or miss has been my conclusion. The current park, in the men’s  has one and half showers (the half one looks dubious), two sinks that are very close to each other, too close for men, and one small mirror. Norm says the ladies is nice. I just have to take her word for that. I still will not boon dock (unless we have to) some where because I get frustrated at commercial RV parks. Our very favorite places to stay are the ones that have next to nothing, 10 sites or less, are on dirt roads, in mountains, surrounded by trees (big ones), you have to hold your nose in the toilet, and we are almost the only ones there…

Alcohol and the Christian….


I found this a while back and liked it…Thought I might share it…

“I am a Christian and I don’t drink. I am also a pastor and ex-alcoholic. I need to make that disclaimer right up front.  Although it makes me biased, it also makes me an expert on this hotly debated issue.

Some of the worst “shudder moments” of my life have been under the influence, and as a pastor, some of the worst “shudder moments” I have witnessed in the lives of others have been because of alcohol. You have come too late to tell me it’s God’s best for a Christian to drink.

We are living in a church age where drinking has become “hipster” for some.  Christian young adults post pictures of their signature drink on Facebook. Middle-aged Christian women name drop their favorite brand of Pinot Grigio to impress their wine snob friends. Churches send direct-mail postcards that read, “Give our church a shot!” featuring an edgy shot glass graphic. Even some pastors drink. Not this one.

I stopped drinking when I became a Christian 26 years ago. No one told me to abstain. I just knew it would be contradictory and self-defeating to my relationship with Christ. I had given my life to follow Jesus and nothing was going to hinder my walk. For me, it was a no-brainer.

This article is not a theological defense on the topic of Christians and alcohol (another article for another time), but it is a heartfelt plea. I humbly ask you to table any knee jerk, pro-alcohol, fight-for-my-right-to-drink arguments that you have ever heard, or made, and prayerfully consider this list.”

50 reasons why I don’t drink:

  1. I can’t be sober-minded if I’m not sober.
  2. Alcohol has an assignment: destruction.
  3. Alcohol is a depressant. Anything that depresses should be avoided at all costs.
  4. I don’t want to make my brother or sister stumble in the name of exercising my “Christian liberties.” My choice to drink could lead to someone’s demise.
  5. Alcohol skews my judgment.
  6. Alcohol leaves me worse, not better.
  7. What I do in moderation, my children will do in excess.
  8. Even the unsaved know I shouldn’t drink. Bible in one hand, beer in the other — any lost person could point this out as a confusing contradiction.
  9. Alcohol doesn’t bring others closer to the Lord when they see me drinking, but farther away.
  10. Alcohol doesn’t bring me closer to the Lord when I drink, but farther away.
  11. I want to be fully awake and ready for the return of Christ, not drowsy, sluggish and fuzzy.
  12. Show me a family where alcohol has made a positive difference in their lives. You won’t be able to.
  13. I have never heard anyone say, “Wow, that gin and tonic made me feel so Christ-like!”
  14. I want to avoid all appearances of evil.
  15. Alcohol makes it much harder for me to practice the fruit of self-control.
  16. Alcohol causes me to lose my filter.
  17. Alcohol is a mind-altering, legal drug.
  18. Alcohol is addictive.
  19. Alcohol is a numbing agent for pain and sorrow that only Jesus can heal.
  20. Many regrets are associated with alcohol. (I can give you a whole bunch!)
  21. No one has ever said, “If only I had taken a drink, things wouldn’t have gotten out of control.”
  22. Alcohol causes me to act in ways I normally wouldn’t.
  23. Alcohol kills brain cells.
  24. Alcohol is a counterfeit, and provides a false peace.
  25. The Bible says that no drunkards will enter the kingdom of God. Being drunk starts with one drink. I don’t want to see how far outside the lines I can color when eternity is at stake.
  26. Alcohol is a waster – money, gifts and talents, destinies, etc.
  27. Alcohol leads to really bad behavior. It is a factor in 50% of violent crimes.
  28. Alcohol distracts and derails you from living the the victorious life for which Christ died.
  29. Wisdom is the principle thing that I need to pursue at all cost; alcohol makes me stupid.
  30. Alcohol has ruined many, many marriages.
  31. The only influence I should be “under” is God’s.
  32. The Bible tells me to be alert; alcohol delays my reaction time.
  33. If I don’t start drinking, I’ll never have to stop.
  34. Alcohol severely tarnishes my testimony.
  35. Don’t want your teenagers to drink? Yep, same reasons apply to you.
  36. God is holy; alcohol is not.
  37. Alcohol and prayer don’t mix.
  38. Alcohol and Bible study don’t mix.
  39. Alcohol lowers my resolve to resist temptation.
  40. Alcohol = Brokenness (broken lives, health, dreams, etc.)
  41. When the world sees us drinking, it sends the message that Jesus isn’t enough.
  42. Moderate drinking? How about moderate pornography or moderate heroin use or moderate lying or moderate adultery?
  43. Christians are called to live a life of total surrender and separation from the world.
  44. Alcohol makes me forget. It can make me forget that I am married, that I am saved, etc.
  45. “I don’t get drunk. I only have one or two drinks.” If they didn’t affect you, you would drink soda.
  46. I should never look to the glass or bottle for joy, which can only be found in the Lord Jesus Christ.
  47. Alcohol fills my mind with impure thoughts.
  48. If it could hinder my faith walk, love walk or dishonor the lordship of Jesus Christ, I need to forsake it.
  49. Alcohol doesn’t help me run the race that Jesus has marked before me to finish with more accuracy. It does the polar opposite.
  50. For any argument that tries to justify Christian drinking, there are at least 50 other reasons not to. The writing is on the wall. It’s not God’s best for Christians to drink.

 

Operation….Air Conditioning…


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For a long time we have been trying to decide if we should upgrade to a small travel trailer or upgrade our cargo trailer. Work with what you have, is what we thought. This was my biggest fear, cutting a hole in a perfectly good trailer. With Norm cheering me on, I borrowed our sons saw (used to be mine) and cut away.

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I really thought I would only have to cut once and did not think that I would have to cut through metal! A quick trip to Ace Hardware produced a “Diablo Steel Demon complete with stabilizer vents that got the job done. Well, the cutting part.

 

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There is nothing quite like having the right tools. Number one on the must have list for me, doing any project is Norm. She keeps me straight and level, gives great advice and lets me know if I have salad in my teeth.

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We cut a very snug hole and it took a lot of pushing to get this puppy through.

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Almost finished.

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Trim in and out, as many bolts and screws that we could install. Most important is that it works like a champ, blowing ice cold air. Not counting massive amounts of sweat, the entire project cost around $212.00. 

Troubling times….Rambling Thoughts…


I have been pondering these issues for some time now and thought I would write about it. Norm and I have been observing photos posted on social media sites, the dressing of some of the younger women in our own fellowship, our recent week spent at youth camp, and our visit to a local church in Edmond Oklahoma. Just this morning we read an article posting of the same subject on crosswalk.com regarding cleavage in church. We posted it to our FB site. At youth camp we explained and asked our girls to not dress inappropriately and they complied. But, they were also quick to point out the mega amount of girls that did not. We did not need the girls to show us what we could see for ourselves. I attended the morning briefing for all of our leaders every morning along with leaders from 21 other church’s. On day two, the camp leader said, “Dress code! Do I need to say more?” At which I replied firmly, “Yes, you do!” None of our adult leaders liked the fact that we had to point out the obvious to other church’s kids. After years of attending camp, the problem is getting worse, not better.

At church service this past Sunday, probably a couple thousand (?) in the service we attended. I mentioned to Norm, if I took a photo of some of the outfits that ladies wore and showed them around, and asked where do you think these were taken, I’m thinking church would not be on the short list. A lot of the men seem to have the opposite attitude. Making a minimal effort to dress at all. I have a theory that this is a road that Christians (?) have been travelling down for quite a while. The Bible no longer holds a special place in our hearts or our homes. We no longer have a reverence for God inwardly and it shows with our dress and our attitudes outwardly. Worship is also in question. Loud music, light shows, songs that are hard for older generations to sing. Our worship service yesterday was very much like the week at youth camp, loud, lights, and a Gospel message. I have no idea if this kind of service is honoring God. It seems that lots of professions of Faith are made, I wonder how many of those new believers go on to serve the Lord? I also ponder the thought of youth camps (lights, loud) services (called Worship) are the reason the college age kids leave the church. I know our service cannot compete with camp (lights and loud).

Just some rambling thoughts, and lots of pondering…

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Texas and Oklahoma…


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West Texas panhandle. 

“What is a girl?”


DSCN2899_edited-110101395094500Little girls are the nicest things that happen to people. They are born with a little bit of angel–shine about them and though it wears thin sometimes, there is always enough left to lasso your heart—even when they are sitting in the mud, or crying temperamental tears, or parading up the street in mother’s best clothes.

A little girl can be sweeter (and badder) oftener than anyone else in the world. She can jitter around, and stomp, and make funny noises and frazzle your nerves, yet just when you open your mouth, she stands there demure with that special look in her eyes. A girl is Innocence playing in the mud, Beauty standing on its head, and Motherhood dragging a doll by the foot.

God borrows from many creatures to make a little girl. He uses the song of a bird, the squeal of a pig, the stubbornness of a mule, the antics of a monkey, the spryness of a grasshopper, the curiosity of a cat, the slyness of a fox, the softness of a kitten. And to top it off, He adds the mysterious mind of a woman.

A little girl likes new shoes, party dresses, small animals, dolls, make–believe, ice cream, make–up, going visiting, tea parties, and one boy. She doesn’t care so much for visitors, boys in general, large dogs, hand–me–downs, straight chairs, vegetables, snow suits, or staying in the front yard. She is loudest when you are thinking, prettiest when she has provoked you, busiest at bedtime, quietest when you want to show her off, and most flirtatious when she absolutely must not get the best of you again.

She can muss up your home, your hair, and your dignity—spend your money, your time, and your temper—then just when your patience is ready to crack, her sunshine peeks through and you’re lost again.

Yes, she is a nerve–racking nuisance, just a noisy bundle of mischief. But when your dreams tumble down and the world is a mess, when it seems you are pretty much of a fool after all, she can make you a king when she climbs on your knee and whispers, “I love you best of all!”

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The Watchmen Gazette…


This is an interesting article. I would love some feed back. What do you think about the “Done’s?”

 

The Rise of the ‘Done With Church’ Population by Thom Schultz

John is every pastor’s dream member. He’s a life-long believer, well-studied in the Bible, gives generously and leads others passionately.

But last year he dropped out of church. He didn’t switch to the other church down the road. He dropped out completely. His departure wasn’t the result of an ugly encounter with a staff person or another member. It wasn’t triggered by any single event.

John had come to a long-considered, thoughtful decision. He said, “I’m just done. I’m done with church.”

John is one in a growing multitude of ex-members. They’re sometimes called the de-churched. They have not abandoned their faith. They have not joined the also-growing legion of those with no religious affiliation—often called the Nones. Rather, John has joined the Dones.

At Group’s recent Future of the Church conference, sociologist Josh Packard shared some of his groundbreaking research on the Dones. He explained these de-churched were among the most dedicated and active people in their congregations. To an increasing degree, the church is losing its best.

For the church, this phenomenon sets up a growing danger. The very people on whom a church relies for lay leadership, service and financial support are going away. And the problem is compounded by the fact that younger people in the next generation, the Millennials, are not lining up to refill the emptying pews.

Why are the Dones done? Packard describes several factors in his upcoming bookChurch Refugees (Group). Among the reasons: After sitting through countless sermons and Bible studies, they feel they’ve heard it all. One of Packard’s interviewees said, “I’m tired of being lectured to. I’m just done with having some guy tell me what to do.”

The Dones are fatigued with the Sunday routine of plop, pray and pay. They want to play. They want to participate. But they feel spurned at every turn.

Will the Dones return? Not likely, according to the research. They’re done. Packard says it would be more fruitful if churches would focus on not losing these people in the first place. Preventing an exodus is far easier than attempting to convince refugees to return.

Pastors and other ministry leaders would benefit from asking and listening to these long-time members before they flee. This will require a change of habit. When it comes to listening, church leaders are too often in the habit of fawning over celebrity pastors for answers. It would be far more fruitful to take that time and spend it with real people nearby—existing members. Ask them some good questions, such as:

1. Why are you a part of this church?
2. What keeps you here?
3. Have you ever contemplated stepping away from church? Why or why not?
4. How would you describe your relationship with God right now?
5. How has your relationship with God changed over the past few years?
6. What effect, if any, has our church had on your relationship with God?
7. What would need to change here to help you grow more toward Jesus’ call to love God and love others?

It’s time to listen. Even as I’m writing this today, another high-capacity lay leader emailed me with his decision to leave his church. He’s done. Like many others I know, he’s also a nationally known Christian leader. But he’s done.

Your church, even if it’s one of the rare growing ones, is sitting on a ticking time bomb. The exodus of the Dones, the rise of the Nones and the disappearance of the Millennials do not look good for a church afraid to listen.

It’s not too late to start.               

Heaven’s Perspective on Persecution…


by John MacArthur

“If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you” (John 15:18).

With those words Jesus comforted His disciples. His followers would not be alone in their suffering; they would partake in what He had already endured. It’s a comfort that points to the certainty of persecution for everyone who follows Christ. The Lord acknowledged that inevitability just a few verses later:

These things I have spoken to you so that you may be kept from stumbling. They will make you outcasts from the synagogue, but an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering service to God. These things they will do because they have not known the Father or Me. But these things I have spoken to you, so that when their hour comes, you may remember that I told you of them. (John 16:1-4)

All believers know, to at least some degree, what it is to suffer for the sake of the Lord. At times we’ve all been alienated or ostracized for our faith. Some have lost relationships, forfeiting friends and even family members for the sake of Christ. Many believers feel the pressure to keep silent about the Lord and His Word, often with the threat of losing their position in an organization or some other social structure. All Christians face those kinds of persecution at one time or another.

But that is mild persecution compared to what we see in Scripture, and what many believers still suffer around the world. Current statistics indicate that today as many as 100 million Christians live under the constant threat of bodily harm and even death because of their faith. By God’s grace, many of us don’t face that fierce level of persecution at our doorstep—yet. However, it is on the rise as the world becomes increasingly hostile to God’s Word and His people.

Whatever the degree of persecution you might face, how you respond is dictated by your perspective. If you can’t see beyond your own suffering and fear, persecution will be a hindrance to your spiritual growth and usefulness. But if you view persecution from heaven’s perspective, you’ll be able to endure, an even thrive in the midst of it.

So what is heaven’s perspective? Like any other hardship we encounter, persecution is a trial permitted by God for our growth. And as James writes, we need to

Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing. (James 1:2-4)

God is not caught off guard by our suffering. Persecution isn’t an indication that He lost control, or that we’ve fallen out of favor with Him. It’s a trial that serves a purpose in His divine plan. And if we react the right way, we can expect to benefit from it in the end.

That’s the promise James makes just a few verses later: “Blessed is a man who perseveres under trial; for once he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him” (James 1:12).

Peter made that same point to his readers in 1 Peter 4:12-14.

Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal among you, which comes upon you for your testing, as though some strange thing were happening to you; but to the degree that you share the sufferings of Christ, keep on rejoicing, so that also at the revelation of His glory you may rejoice with exultation. If you are reviled for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you.

Peter’s readers were indeed facing a “fiery ordeal.” Scattered across the Roman Empire, they lived as aliens amid a pagan society. On top of that, they endured the constant threat of violent persecution, as the Romans excelled at devising excruciating tortures and horrific deaths for their enemies. And in spite of that, Peter called them to rejoice.

In this you greatly rejoice, even though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been distressed by various trials, so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. (1 Peter 1:6-7)

The fruit of believers’ suffering is a proven faith. Enduring persecution proves the quality of their love for the Lord, and nothing is more valuable than tested faith. It not only affirms your status as a child of God (Romans 8:17), it also empowers you to conquer sin (1 Peter 4:1).

Because of that immense value of having confidence in your salvation, you’re willing to suffer the pains and hardships of persecution. You don’t try to escape it; you accept it as the Lord’s preordained proving ground for your faith. That is why Peter writes that we can rejoice in trials.

In other words, there’s nothing—not health, comfort, or security—more valuable than the confidence that your faith is real. Believers can gladly sacrifice those things because they know their suffering builds up their spiritual strength, the assurance of their faith, and their anticipation of future glory in heaven with Christ.

John records these words from Jesus, which He said hours before His salvation-securing death: “These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world” (John 16:33). The worst thing the world can do is kill us, which sends us directly into the arms of Christ and our ultimate triumph.

We should expect to face various forms of persecution in this life. And in the coming days, we’ll consider some biblical principles for responding to that persecution. But we’ll never be able to bear up under the weight of the suffering if we don’t first have heaven’s perspective on it—that God is allowing it for our good.photo (18)